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Christians Complain About Ads That Say "There's Probably No God"

By Jim Edwards | Jan 12, 2009

The British Advertising Standards Authority has forced an atheist group to alter their advertising campaign to assert that “There’s probably no god.” Originally, the British Humanist Association wanted to run a campaign on London buses stating “There is no god.” But, as the LA Times reports,

3179982618_5c7edb6351.jpgThe biggest kerfuffle has been over the word “probably” in the slogan, which the British advertising authority said should be thrown in to keep the ad from being potentially misleading, on the grounds that no one can say with 100% certainty that God does not exist.

Richard Dawkins, the Oxford biology professor fanous for his atheism, funded the campaign:

I wanted a stronger statement. However, I’ve come around to it now, partly because a complaint has now been made to the Advertising Standards Agency, which suggested that the word “probably” was necessary.

The ads state, “There’s probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.”

British christians — walking right into the atheists’ trap! — are already complaining about the new, altered campaign. The Christian Voice claims the ads break rules on substantiation and truthfulness. Says Stephen Green, a complaining believer:

I think the advertisers are really going to struggle to show their claim is not an exaggeration or inaccurate, as the ASA code puts it.

Image by Flickr user Fabbio, CC

Jim Edwards, a former managing editor of Adweek, has covered drug marketing at Brandweek for four years, and is a former Knight-Bagehot fellow at Columbia University's business and journalism schools. Follow him on Twitter or send him an email.

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    Rocky Top

    01/13/09 | Reported as spam

    RE: Christians Complain About Ads That Say

    GREAT...NOW...lets see if Richard Dawkins has the balls to run an ad campaign that states...
    THERE IS NO MOHAMMED...THERE IS NO ALLAH!

    Try that one on for size RICHARD...lets see how long you live.

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    thrillseekerk2

    01/13/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Christians Complain About Ads That Say

    Its not about displaying balls.. its about living life the
    way you want to, without being influenced into following
    a path that you don't want to.. and moreover there is no
    proof that god exists either... so would the ad
    associations ask religion (any) to rephrase their beliefs to
    'there PROBABLY is a god.. who will PROBABLY solve all
    your problems in life..'

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    dvogel

    01/13/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Christians Complain About Ads That Say

    So let me get this right; Dawkins is spending his personal money to try to refute a way of life in which people find peace and purpose? Isn???t using an advertising crusade to promote freedom to act uninfluenced by others??? beliefs a little oxymoronic?

    And what Judeo-Christian principals is Dawkins trying to "liberate" people from? Is he hoping to free people to "enjoy" greed, infidelity, murder or whatever other self-serving action seems satisfying to them in the moment? Yes, please, let's have a society full of people with no qualms about only doing what feels good to them. Maybe this is how Dawkins plans to measure his marketing ROI?

    Interesting interview with Dawkins by Ben Stein about the basis for his atheism and his thoughts that earth may have been designed by aliens instead of a deity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlZtEjtlirc

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    ingoodcompany

    01/13/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Christians Complain About Ads That Say

    Every minute people spend blogging about it increases his ROI. My motto: "If you don't like the show, turn the channel."

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    hifistyle1

    01/14/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Christians Complain About Ads That Say

    There's plenty of proof God exists. But you must take the time to read the Bible to find it.

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    null

    01/14/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Christians Complain About Ads That Say

    First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, "Where is this 'coming' he promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation." But they deliberately forget that long ago by God's word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water. By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

    But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

    But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.

    Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming.That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness.

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    oltu22

    01/14/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Christians Complain About Ads That Say

    I used to copy and paste a six hundred word answer to such crap.

    Freedom of expression. If the Christians want an answer, they should put up ads saying 'There probably is a God. FEAR AND REPENT!'

    ...that is what you want right? People to live in fear and repentance lest they be judged?

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    pammymac

    01/14/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Christians Complain About Ads That Say

    I feel abused and insulted when dvogel suggests that because I am not a christian I must necessarily "enjoy" greed, infidelity, and murder.
    I am a good person and I spend a lot of time and energy doing good, giving of myself, my time and my 'goods' to help others less fortunate.
    In fact, I find the proportion of greedy unkind and selfless kind people about the same in both christian and non-christian communities.
    We all should be careful to judge people on their actions not their beliefs. Actions are what really makes a difference.
    Or is it easier to feel you are better than others because of what you believe, without having to earn it through doing good?

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    dvogel

    01/14/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Christians Complain About Ads That Say

    pammymac: it was not my intention to offend you, or to suggest that charity, fidelity and peacefulness are uniquely "Christian" traits. Indeed, they can be seen in practice by people of all faiths, or those who profess none at all.

    My intention with that statement was to express my regret that Dawkins is campaigning against belief systems that promote accountability for ones actions; Christianity would be just one of many.

    Please accept my apology.

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    rien_pr

    01/15/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Christians Complain About Ads That Say

    God is the god of all people, so not only Christians, but Muslims and Jews must oppose this ad. This is one of the nonsenses of Dawkins. The ads like have a poisonous effect on our youth. Its enough to look at a single leaf to realize that God exists.

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    elwgreen

    01/15/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Christians Complain About Ads That Say

    I believe! Can't see the things I have had the pleasure of seeing and feeling and not believe. It is not about "Repent!!!" even though we have to. One cannot understand the need until they can realize how much GOD loves them. We Christians are sometimes too quick to point fingers but need to do a much better job of sharing God's love.

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    McColl

    01/15/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Christians Complain About Ads That Say

    Smart. But nature is god, in my oppinion. And nature is not an intelligent, or sentient, or vengeful, or deliberate magician, but through processes honed over the maillenia according to the laws of nature (gravity, attraction...the properties inherint in matter and space), the miracle is that things have truned out the way they have...that you are reading this right now. Your life is sacred...its yours...its a mirracle...so respect it and what has brought you to this moment. I consider myself an atheist.

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    rdebaun

    01/16/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Christians Complain About Ads That Say

    The regulation of commercial speech is far different issue than censoring the expression of political or religious opinions.

    With the exceptions of national security threats and incitement to violence, citizens in a democracy should pretty much be free to express their opinions no matter how unpopular, uninformed, or foolish they may seem to others.

    Looks like the ASA overstepped its bounds with this one.

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    thrillseekerk2

    01/18/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Christians Complain About Ads That Say

    @rdebaun: well said... but people aren't robots and
    can't be programmed to think alike and in this
    manner... so pretty much any changes in collective
    human thought takes time and is sometimes
    impossible... and when we are discussing about
    democratic freedom of expression, a collective solution
    to this forum doesn't exist, except the one solution -
    accept others opinions the way they are as long as it
    doesn't influence your opinions personally. If it does,
    it's probably because you aren't confident and secure
    about your opinion and your mind is looking for an
    alternative unconsciously! You don't stop the snow,
    you just drive slow!

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