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Interest Groups Redouble Fight on Healthcare Reform

By Ken Terry | Nov 13, 2009

As healthcare reform starts to look more and more inevitable, various interest groups are stepping up their efforts to influence the legislation. And, while special interests have traditionally been branded as profit-driven at the expense of the public interest, some of them have potent arguments.

Take Medicare HMOs. Reformers in both the House and the Senate want to trim government payments to Medicare Advantage plans, citing the fact that they are paid 14 percent more, on average, than the cost of traditional Medicare. But in Florida, 950,000 seniors-29 percent of the total-belong to Medicare HMOs, which are paid only slightly more than fee-for-service Medicare in the Miami area. Because the HMOs are more efficient than the providers that supply services to seniors in the traditional government program, they can offer free dental care, gym memberships, and other services that the fee-for-service program doesn’t cover. So members of these plans are not thrilled about the prospect of health care reform cutting HMO payments to about 80 percent of traditional Medicare, if the competitive bidding provision of the Senate Finance Committee bill is adopted.

On the other hand, Medicare HMOs across the land made $3.3 billion in profits for their owners last year, partly because of the favorable provisions in the Medicare Modernization Act of 2003. The AARP supports cutting payments to these and other Medicare Advantage plans, because people in the traditional program are subsidizing those in the Medicare HMOs through higher monthly premiums.

Then there are children’s hospitals, which complain that they have more to lose than full-service hospitals do under the proposed reforms. The National Association of Children’s Hospitals claims that reform could cut their government payments by as much as $876 million over 10 years. That’s above and beyond the $155 billion that all of the nation’s hospitals agreed to surrender in return for getting millions of new insured customers. The problem with this theory, from the pediatric hospitals’ point of view, is that they won’t be able to counterbalance the reduction in federal “disproportionate share” payments for charity care, as the full-line hospitals will, with the new business. The reason is that far more children than adults already have coverage, partly through Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program.

Medical device manufacturers are also fighting an effort to tax them to raise money to cover the uninsured. The measure that the House of Representatives passed last weekend would levy a tax of $20 billion on the device makers, half the level of the Senate Finance Committee bill’s toll. Some manufacturers still oppose any levy, but national lobbyists for the industry are said to be reconciled to the lower amount. If the final Senate bill retains the $40 billion price tag, however, expect a major lobbying battle.

So here’s the good, the bad, and the ugly: Reform will create winners and losers. But in the final analysis, everyone will benefit if the end result actually moves us closer to a sustainable healthcare system.

Health Wonk Review: Louise Norris of Colorado Health Insurance Insider has done a particularly well-written, insightful edition of this indispensable guide to the nation’s wonkers.

Ken Terry, a former senior editor at Medical Economics Magazine, is the author of the book Rx For Health Care Reform. follow all BNET Healthcare posts on Twitter.

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    m.s.f.

    11/14/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Interest Groups Redouble Fight on Healthcare Reform

    Once again, your completely simplistic view of this topic is most disappointing. You are willing to settle for an equally broken down system to what exists now.

    Here is an illustration:

    Let's say you have been saving your whole life for a Corvette. You save and save and save. You order the Corvette of your dreams. Not the models that show up at the local dealership. One built just for you. Engine, transmission, wheels, stereo. Everything just the way you want it!

    Finally, you get the call from GM that your corvette will be rolling down the assembly line in Bowling Green, KY on a certain date. You travel to Bowling Green, check in at the front desk, and then you are escorted to the assembly line.

    "There's yours", says the guide to you. However, instead of seeing a Corvette rolling down the line, you see a 1972 Ford Pinto.

    "Wait a minute! That's not what I ordered!" you protest.

    Nevertheless, the guide states that is what you are getting.

    What would you do next? Simply wait on it, get in, turn the key, feel the heart thumping power of a 1972 era four cylinder come to life, drive it away hoping you don't stop short with an 18 wheeler too close behind, because we all know how that will turn out.

    Or, would you protest all the way to the GM CEO if need be until you receive what you ordered? Let's face it, you have saved your entire life for this car! You have dreamt about it, imagined what it would be like, and now this is the best they can do?!

    And now, here you are - instead of a Corvette, you are stuck with a Pinto complete with rust bubbles around the wheel wells and a bumper sticker with the single word "KABOOM".

    This is exactly what you are supporting. Stop it!

    As the national deficit is way out of control, the dollar is tanking, and we definitely do not have the best and the brightest in DC making decisions - on either side of the aisle - isn't it now time to push the Emergency Stop button on the assembly line and move the Pinto where it belongs, with the rest of the clunkers?

    Oh, I know the next response. Let me guess, "Healthcare reform will only come around once in a generation. We must take this and make the best of it." are the next words out of your mouth and that I am naive to think we can simply start over.

    If this "mess", and I don't mean "mess" in the sense of something untidy, I do mean "mess" in the sense of something my four-month-old puppy just did in the back yard, is the best we can come up with then you are correct, we will NOT have another chance. The goose that lays the golden eggs will be dead. Killed. DOA. Room temperature. Pushing up daisies.

    Truth is we have come to expect substandard service from our elected officials. Your job is to stop facilitating this apathy.

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    fredallensowder

    11/15/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Interest Groups Redouble Fight on Healthcare Reform

    Minimal and limited government is the answer. A 25% tax payable through our churches and mosques is the only tax we need!

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    Ken Terry

    11/15/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Interest Groups Redouble Fight on Healthcare Reform

    M.S.F., I like your writing style--and truth be told, if I had ordered a Corvette and a Ford Pinto rolled down the line, not only would I protest, but I'd be mighty surprised that a Ford rolled off a Chevrolet assembly line. But the fact is that we the people didn't "order" the healthcare reform bill that the House passed. It was a politically driven compromise among many interest groups, as any legislation that has a chance of passing Congress and being signed by the President will be. Because of this reality, I am willing to accept a product I'm not entirely happy with if it is a step in the right direction. (To use your analogy, I would rather drive a Ford Pinto than walk.)

    As for your suggestion that we throw the whole mess out of the window and start over, it's an emotionally satisfying idea, but it won't work. Unless the Democrats pass healthcare reform this year or early next year, it will be dead in the water for a long time to come. The Republicans, who do not want any kind of reform, will make sure of that. And they will use the failure of the Democrats' health care initiative to retake power and finish the destruction of the American dream that George W. Bush fueled with inaction and cronyism over the first eight years of this decade.

    Perhaps you have great healthcare, and you're sure that you will always have it, and your children will always have it. However, that's not true for most of your fellow Americans

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    stephhunter

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    Bad News for Insurance

    The industry doesn't want reform and that's understandable given the way they have pillaged our nation. The trouble for them is that the public option already has a proven history and record of success. http://cli.gs/23yYaM/

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    m.s.f.

    11/16/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Interest Groups Redouble Fight on Healthcare Reform

    No, Mr. Terry, I am not sure I will have great health care forever. In fact, my mother, who worked the majority of her adult life, is currently without healthcare. In this time in American "history", none of us can be sure of anything.

    The Republicans should be getting the message, I say should be because they have proven to be less than inventive on their side, that a majority of Americans do want the current healtcare system to be changed. The system that is being proposed just is not going to work.

    Until we shift from employer provided healthcare to individual driven, there will not be competition. Additionally, the government run option (or is it the public option or the consumer option - Nancy has so many intelligent ways of describing the same thing) is just another version of what currently exists.

    From a business standpoint, we must get companies away from expending large amounts of resources, resources these companies are finding increasingly in short supply, for something within the company itself is non-productive. The company I work for is a small company of about 40 employees. They provide insurance for those who want it. However, each year we receive another application from another company offering ever shrinking benefits for more money.

    If we put the individuals in the driver's seat, as the individual consumers are for most everything else in our economy (cars, laundry detergent, TV's, computers, etc.) then we will see real innovation. Suddenly, the consumer will be in charge.

    Oh, and the Ford rolling off of a GM assembly line? That was on purpose. Leave it to the US government to somehow figure out how to get a 1972 Ford Pinto roll off an assembly line tooled for Corvettes.

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    Coach-Lee-428

    11/16/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Interest Groups Redouble Fight on Healthcare Reform

    Pillaged our nation? Give me a break!

    Many hospitals have to secure 100% of their operating costs based upon 25% of their revenues because the other 75% are discounted (Medicare), not paid or paid over a very long time. The pillage can be traced back to the wave of illegal immigrants; the greedy lawyers who are responsible for the $200-$300 billions annually spent on defensive medicine and the individuals who now believe that a tooth ache should be covered by their employers instead of the original purpose of major medical care - surgery.

    The government cannot run anything well, U.S. Postal System, the H1N1 vaccine; the mortgage industry - Freddie and Fannie Mae, etc.

    By the way, when did toothbrushes and tampons become medical devices. They will be facing new taxes that we as consumers will have to pay. Oh yes, and illegal immigrants will not have to buy insurance. That is all in the bill from what any responsible educated person would call the fascists or I mean elected officials who passed this unconstitutional bill.

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    verycold

    11/16/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Interest Groups Redouble Fight on Healthcare Reform

    msf - I agree with you completely. Terry is failing to the take the blinders off because he has such a strong political bias which is bad for any sort of honest debate. It is simply a lie that Terry keeps pushing that republicans do not want any sort of reform. Many republicans and democrats do agree on some insurance reforms as well as tort reforms, the latter not being considered by the senate or house for reasons we are all too familiar with.

    I live between two medical people. I have had this discussion with one of them feeling she is very intelligent and would have a first hand POV. We both strongly agreed that tort reform MUST be a part of this health care reform. She readily admits to ordering many more tests to cover any liability. As she explained, even winning a lawsuit won't erase the damage to her reputation and thus the overkill. THIS NEEDS TO STOP.

    The only elected officials that support this bill are the ones given talking points to repeat over and over believing if repeated often enough makes it so.

    People want health care reform because they can see their premiums escalating while getting less and less with that cost each year. We all agree on this contrary to Terry's assumption that the republicans want to do nothing. It is that POV that is dividing up this country and causing an even bigger divide among us. However people also are not that stupid to believe that a 2,000 page health care bill doesn't have loads of unexpected or unreported changes that they may not like or approve of. It is a matter of trust which is sadly lacking in this country because both parties are frequently liars and crooks.

    If you started with the notion of a corvette and instead got a pinto that breaks down all the time, no care might prove to be better since at least money was not wasted day after day.

    This idea that some action is better than no action should then be applied to Afghanistan and yet we can see this president is not anxious to apply that same rationale knowing it might kill our sons and daughters. However IMO the health reform and our economic viability which is in great peril, is in fact just as important as providing a winning strategy for our soldiers.

    Stop with the political bias and instead measure these bills honestly because it is life and death for millions.

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    bruferg

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    RE: Interest Groups Redouble Fight on Healthcare Reform

    With all do respect, if you honestly thin a 2000 page bill will help STREAMLINE and stabilize health care in this country then you're very misguided. If we really wanted to cover the uninsured we could do it at a fraction of the cost by giving them an insurance policy. This bill does nothing to improve our HC. It will drive up cost and reduce the quality. But the outcome will be more equitable for all. Mediocrity!

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    dcluley

    11/16/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Interest Groups Redouble Fight on Healthcare Reform

    Ken,

    The current legislation will not move us closer to a sustainable health care system. It will do quite the opposite and make it far more costly at the same time.

    Do not be mislead by the nearly $1 trillion price tag. Once fully implemented, the final price tag will be almost three times that amount. We cannot afford our current system. We definitely cannot afford what is being proposed.

    A health care system that is viable and sustainable is one that provides only the care that is needed at high quality and at a far lower cost than that paid today.

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    Ken Terry

    11/17/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Interest Groups Redouble Fight on Healthcare Reform

    I agree that the House bill is far from what is needed to provide decent healthcare to everyone at a cost we can afford. And, yes, cost control has been neglected in both the House and Senate legislation. We actually don't know how much it will cost in the long run, but the nonpartisan CBO projects that the House bill will cost about $1.1 trillion over the next decade, although some estimates are higher (not three times higher, however).

    As for my partisan attitude, the Republicans controlled the White House for 8 years and Congress for 6, yet did virtually nothing to control costs or expand coverage. Their current proposals are, frankly, a joke: They would cover about 3 million of the 47 million uninsured, and they would essentially leave the rest to the mercies of the market. People who depend on charity care in the emergency room do not have real access to healthcare.

    I would prefer legislation that puts in real cost controls while covering most people--which is necessary if we expect insurance companies to take all comers without raising premiums dramatically. But this is unlikely to happen in our current political situation, with every interest group fighting for advantage. So the best we can do right now is to expand coverage and require pilot projects that will test reforms of our broken delivery system, such as paying doctors for quality rather than volume. If the Senate also creates a Medicare commission with real teeth that can put these reforms into action, we might be able to slow down cost growth as well. Depending on Congress to enact changes that will step on powerful toes is a pipe dream.

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    verycold

    11/17/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Interest Groups Redouble Fight on Healthcare Reform

    Ken, you still don't get it yet. You write these articles and then rebuff just basic logical thinking and frankly well earned skepticism about our inept government. Let's see Ken, they can't see a crisis coming, they can't protect our soldiers on their home base, they can't run Amtrak, they can't run the Post Office, they can' write a bill to actually stimulate the economy, etc. For the most part they cannot be trusted to tell the truth because they jump before they know how to swim.

    The republicans have been shut out of this process from Day 1. I have heard several democrats say they have seen bills submitted by republicans that they agree with, but that nobody is considering. There is lots of agreement out there. If they only agreed on 3 key problems that would be a huge step in the right direction.

    Again Ken, they ALL agree on insurance portability. That 43 million number that Nancy loves to toss around is a bogus number. I worked for years with young adults in a college town that had NO interest buying and paying for any sort of insurance plan. If the plan wasn't free to them and somebody else fill out the papers they were not interested. They aren't teaching much about the real world these days in college. Many of those uninsured are part of that number for a short time when switching jobs or temporarily losing their job. I have been there - probably all of us have been. There is a much smaller number denied coverage and yes I know of such cases. I would have been one of them since I had cancer.

    Dems and republicans all agree that everybody should have access to the health care system. The problem is figuring out where those most in need that ultimately will run up bills because of their poor health can be absorbed. Insurance companies rejected those of us that got sick because we were too risky to insure causing premiums to rise. That pool of risky people needs to be absorbed in the current public plan through medicaid. If people are deemed well they can get moved out of that risky group. I haven't had cancer in 15 years and thus I would qualify to be deemed healthy and brought back into the regular population and covered just like anybody else.

    Many dems and republicans want tort reform. When the medical community admits they call for unwarranted tests to either satisfy the patient or because they want to CIA, we need to address that serious legal problem. I know some states have and have seen improvement.

    If Medicare has so much waste, how about starting there and addressing that issue first? They would need to have those employed in the system who's job it is to sort through the fraudulent claims. When I worked for a city municipality, we had MANY WC claims that were bogus. We did employ an outside investigator, but there was much more "business" than one man was able to do. That system was ripe with fraud and I would bet many cities are paying on claims that are costing taxpayers a fortune.

    Recently a CA congressman suggested that his party listen to the republicans that are often more number oriented. He was suggesting it isn't economic sense just to devise new programs with little thought about how to pay for it and more importantly how to implement it without going broke. I am suggesting the benevolent party that can't say no to any entitlement program needs to be married to a party that can rein in those wants. This is why the republicans are fighting within the party because they forgot about fiscal responsibility during the Bush years.

    It is the independents that are gaining in the numbers because many of us see that both parties have huge flaws that they are unwilling to address. They both need to be reined in.

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    m.s.f.

    11/17/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Interest Groups Redouble Fight on Healthcare Reform

    Mr. Terry:

    For the record, I am an independent who was a Republican, however, in 2007, I changed affiliation because of the very poor leadership exhibited by both parties. Truth be told, DC is a complete and utter disaster at this time. Neither party could successfully organize and manage a bake sale or lemonade stand.

    The problem, which, quite honestly, you show yourself as being a symptom, is we have come to expect so little from our government that we are so willing to hang onto anything they manage to get completed. This attitude of, well, APATHY must stop and stop now. This has led to a nearly $12T deficit.

    It is very telling when China, which holds approximately 40% of our debt, is asking our President just how he plans to pay for this mammoth healthcare reform bill. That sounds like a worried creditor to me, yes?

    Comical analogies of Corvettes and Pintos aside, this is serious business. We have used up all of the capital the generations before us built up dating all the way back to 1787. Any misstep now will result in complete bankruptcy of the country.

    For the record - it is never good when both the stock market and the price of precious metals and specifically gold are increasing at the same time.

    Simply pointing fingers at this time is exactly the same as if you and I found ourselves in a back alley cornered by 12 members of some local gang bent on beating us and taking our money. We could point fingers at each other and blame each other for getting one another into the situation where we now find ourselves, however, this will do precious little to extract us from the situation. Now is the time for unity of purpose and action. Would you want either of us to be seriously injured in the alley scenario? I wouldn't. I would want both of us to emerge unscathed - a little wiser, but unscathed.

    This is where we now find ourselves. We cannot slip up - not even a little bit.

    We all must call our representatives. Let them know now is the time to do something heroic, to stand up for our future. Now is the time to start over with this legislation and to stop spending money we don't have.

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