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Microsoft News Corp. Deal Is a Google Killer [UPDATED]

By Erik Sherman | Nov 23, 2009

We’ve seen Microsoft pay users in the past to search on Live.com. Now rumors are that the company is pursuing a more clever strategy of bribing providing incentives to not users, but sources. According to the Financial Times, Microsoft is talking to News Corp. and other publishers about taking their sites off Google and putting them on Bing. And it’s a smart enough strategy to potentially turn the entire online media world on its ear.

One website publisher approached by Microsoft said that the plan “puts enormous value on content if search engines are prepared to pay us to index with them”.Microsoft’s interest is being interpreted as a direct assault on Google because it puts pressure on the search engine to start paying for content.

Oh, but it does a lot more than that. Why do people go to search engines? To find information. And clearly there’s plenty of information on the web that isn’t the property of media companies.

However, many of the more trafficked information sites are those of newspapers, magazines, online reporting outlets, and broadcast companies. The sites come up on search engines because they have what people want. Moving to Bing just for payments, even on the order that Microsoft can and might provide, would be foolish. There is no way that Microsoft alone could pay out enough to keep the industry afloat.

But then, this isn’t about getting money from Microsoft so much as it is about changing the current dynamics and of taking Google out of the catbird seat. Think about News Corp. for a moment. That includes the following:

  • The Wall Street Journal, New York Post, Dow Jones, and 31 news properties in the U.K. and Australia
  • Harper Collins
  • Fox Broadcasting in the U.S. and Sky television
  • other television cable channels including National Geographic, the various Fox variations, Speed, STAR, Fuel TV, and FX
  • 20th Century Fox
  • sites including Hulu, Beliefnet, AmericanIdol.com, and Rotten Tomatoes
  • MySpace

Many of the media companies have comparatively extensive sets of holdings, and few media companies have been effusive in their pleasure with Google. Given the low rates of online ads and you have to wonder how much Microsoft would have to kick in before the media companies felt relatively little pain. There might be just enough available to get some of the bigger names to drop Google and take up Bing. You can guess that Associated Press would do something like this at the drop of a hat. But I suspect many other sources might as well.

That would have a market tilting effect. Consumers in large part go to Google because of two factors: they expect to find the information they want (probably because they’ve heard that Google has the most available) and they work from habit. But upset the perception of where information is available, and you have a chance to see habits go out the window. It’s happened before, both when AltaVista came onto the scene and then when Google pushed it out.

Google reps are already starting to protest:

Matt Brittin, Google’s UK director, told a Society of Editors conference that Google did not need news content to survive. “Economically it’s not a big part of how we generate revenue,” he said.

But wait a moment. Although Google News isn’t a big part of the revenue, being perceived as having the world’s information on tap is key to the company’s positioning. Major sources jumping ship to Bing would upset that perception. No matter how much Google managers would eventually protest, they couldn’t sit back because the company would start to lose share.

The only way to counter would be to offer similar amounts of money — that is, if Microsoft didn’t negotiate exclusive deals. And that would be an end to the Google Miracle of reaping profits from content that didn’t cost much, if anything. Effectively, it means that if Microsoft is willing to invest enough for a while, it might undercut Google’s business strategy at a time that it is still completely dependent on search advertising revenue.

[UPDATE: Although Google may protest, it seems that it's becoming reconciled to paid content.]

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Erik Sherman is a freelance journalist whose work has appeared in Newsweek, the New York Times Magazine, Technology Review, the Financial Times, Chief Executive, and other publications. Follow him on Twitter.

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    conlad

    11/24/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Microsoft News Corp. Deal Is a Google Killer

    I don't think this will be a game changer, because it comes too late in the game to effectively change something. People are now very used to Google, and it arguably remains the best search engine (complemented by the other Google services like maps) so on functionality there's no incentive to stop using it. About content, you have to ask yourself if those news sites have that great traffic because of Google and not because of their own merits. I believe this is the case, and for them to leave Google would mean to leave one of their greatest sources of traffic. Who knows if Microsoft money can put their execs at ease when few souls visit their costly website.

    This could be compared to a big, consumer products firm like P&G or Kraft to stop selling to Wal Mart because they don't like dealing with them. Surely their profit will be bigger somewhere else, but their market presence, and a good deal of their sales volumes, will be lost. The same I see here, and that's why I don't think this deal will happen, or at least not in an 'exclusivity' kind of deal.

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    ErikSherman

    11/24/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Microsoft News Corp. Deal Is a Google Killer

    We'll have to see. Alta Vista was in use for years before Google settled in. Also, it's not that the sites would take that much traffic from Google, but that they'd take "information cachet."

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    cosuna

    11/24/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Microsoft News Corp. Deal Is a Google Killer

    It's hard to tell the real effect this will have in the marketplace, although it makes you wonder the massive disruption that a monopoly can have on a whole ecosystem when it isn't regulated in due time.

    Now we now that Microsoft will go to any length to "destroy" Google as Ballmer vehemently put to one former employee.

    IMHO, as conlad stated, this is "too little...too late", but might actually polarize the public into those loyal to Google and those against it.

    Murdoch is known to like this kind of attention as he did when launching the ultra-conservative Fox News.

    Who know. Maybe in the future we could see several co-investments between News Corp and Microsoft that might ultimately end with a merger, as MSFT had mixed results from its NBC tie-up in MSNBC, and might be willing to dump them in favor of a mayor player.

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    nipungupta

    11/24/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Microsoft News Corp. Deal Is a Google Killer

    Well pardon me if somebody has already written it, but it is kinda obvious that if this deal between News Corp and MS is THE REAL DEAL then we are looking at a butterfly effect which will revolutionize the whole search engine market forever and personally I have very definitive reasons to believe that this is very unlikely to happen. So forget about the Google killer. Think about it, Google (the only search engine out there, lets be honest about it) optimizes the search parameters so that a particular website can appear in search results, including these news websites. In turn, these websites have posted advertisements so that they can gain profit out of every visitor. They are already using Google as a platform, and in case they start charging Google for it, every other industry whose website is out there on the internet WILL follow suit. In effect, only those companies which will be paid by Google/Bing will be listed on the search results. This is DISASTROUS from USABILITY point of view. Everyone can then build a search engine of their own industry. The reason we can discount possibility of that happening ever is because when that happens, the SEARCH ENGINES become MEANINGLESS if they don't show the content distributed all around the internet.

    So what is hullabaloo this all about ? From my perspective, it is an empty threat from Microsoft and Mr. Gates has some under-the table agreements with Mr. Murdoch. This kind of an action has been done to announce MS's market presence and nothing else.

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    ErikSherman

    11/24/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Microsoft News Corp. Deal Is a Google Killer

    @nipungupta, I have to disagree a bit. Not everyone has the mass of material and sites that a News Corp. has (including MySpace, which I had forgotten to add to the list). And most industries aren't in the business of providing content, so don't care whether they get paid or not - they're selling goods and services that don't appear in their entirety on the web. That's a big difference. Also, Google is simply not the "only" search engine because it has 65.4 percent. To think that way is to ignore reality. A whole lot of people don't use it, and if you expand search to speciality engines like Amazon, the dynamics get even more complicated. And there are already mutliple search engines for virtually every industry - generally used by people in those industries.

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    nipungupta

    11/25/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Microsoft News Corp. Deal Is a Google Killer

    Yeah I agree with you but it I am thinking how beneficial it might be from Microsoft's point of view. Once they get the news corp to sign the agreement, then people are gonna put up bing as their homepages. Now, from psychology point of view people are pretty lazy when once they switch over to BING from GOOGLE. So MS might have some really big strategy going on in place. They might even pull the plug on New corp later on after getting most of the market share (probably in 2-3 months).

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    cosuna

    11/25/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Microsoft News Corp. Deal Is a Google Killer

    Erik:

    As a long time Internet programmer I can tell you that other grandiose schemas that Microsoft has concocted have failed simply because MSFT has little experience on the Web paradigm and Google has plenty.

    Most of the time, what spoils the plans are the technical details, which get lost on purely business sites like BNET.
    For example:

    1) How will News accomplish it's delisting? Will they simply use the robots.txt file and essentially hide from every search engine.

    2) Will that mean that Bing will now ignore robots.txt?

    3) Will, Bing create an alternative robots.txt file?

    4) How popular will that new file be?

    5) Will sites have to support both standards?

    As you can see from the technical scrutiny above, most of MSFT plan lies on the creation of an alternative search engine oriented file or maybe even a WebService. So the main problem is that this schema shifts the development task from the Search engine to the media provider, which would need to create a Bing friendly service, while maintaining a Google hostile file. That means double work, since Google can find ways of opening back doors (alternative folder scanning, alternative DNS tracking,etc), areas in which Google excels MSFT.

    So in the end, this battle could strenghten Google, while weakening both News Corp and MSFT. Most other sites (which aren't get paid by neither) will stay in the sidelines and wait for their sites to be crawled as usual.

    Just as what happened with Hailstorm, the key for this schema to work is developer inclusion and I see no clear path for this, although I could be wrong.

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    ErikSherman

    11/25/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Microsoft News Corp. Deal Is a Google Killer

    It will be interesting to keep a watch on it all. MS might have an easier time because it would only have to get cooperation from News Corp or any other media company, and not developers in general.

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    danielchu

    11/25/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Microsoft News Corp. Deal Is a Google Killer

    News sites are not the centre of the universe anymore. Time
    has changed -- information now comes from sources such as
    Twitter or blogs.

    In the end, news is about people, and people nowadays
    broadcast their own information online. Therefore, even if news
    sites are taken off of Google, as long as it still captures
    everything else, Google's position will not be shaken.

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    ErikSherman

    11/27/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Microsoft News Corp. Deal Is a Google Killer

    danielchu, look at the average traffic for a blog and for a big media site (which will include blogs). The media sites still carry enormous weight. It's also fine to say that "people nowadays broadcase their own information online," but it has to come from somewhere, and very few people are willing to put in the time and energy needed to get the information. It has to come from somewhere. And, again, like much of marketing, this becomes as issue of perception. If you don't have major news outlets, then your positioning as a place to get the world's information falls.

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    Robert_Richard

    11/27/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Microsoft News Corp. Deal Is a Google Killer

    This large Microsoft/News Corp venture is for the moment just a venture. It will be really difficult to predict how Google might react. One thing is for sure, given Google's culture, I bet they will be looking for every possible countermeasure against this model rather than dancing to Microsoft tunes.

    For example, as danielchu mentioned in a previous comment, the immensely fragmented news middlemen (blogs, tweets, etc.) can still provide Googlenauts with indirect access to the News Corp content while providing their value added spin on it. Then, Google just tweak its engine and boom; great market for Google's favorite collaborator... the independent contractor that provides revenue instead of extrac.

    I believe the ?ser profile" must be considered when evaluating market share numbers versus brand awareness and fans. I'm afraid Bing is more dependent on fortuitous traffic from the browser URL box than Google just because Bing related browsers have the larger market share. Some of this users are not Bing users but browser search users. Put a google friendly browser in their hands and bring them to your service. Terefore, the Google Chrome product line (including Chrome OS) may become relevant for the search engine business too.

    Does Microsoft really want to pay a lot of dough to give Google reasons to comeback at them full force?

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    ErikSherman

    11/27/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Microsoft News Corp. Deal Is a Google Killer

    For better or worse, Microsoft is already competing with Google on many fronts. Google is trying to go after Microsoft at "full force," only it has been pretty poor at building a business outside of search advertising. Not engaging or confronting can't happen and would be bad business. So Microsoft is trying on many fronts. it's easy to forget how smart a competitor MS can be. Getting information indirectly is not good for Google because it shatters the company's position as the source of the world's information. It's subtle, but one of the more potent attacks MS can use. Again, the MS-News Corp venture isn't even a venture. It's currently speculation. However, if it happens, it could upset Google's equilibrium by forcing the company on the search defensive.

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    edcoughlin

    11/30/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Microsoft News Corp. Deal Is a Google Killer

    Really I don't see how this matters. If News Corp pulled WSJ
    and the rest you would still get all the references to the stories
    from other news amalgamation sites and blogs. It might take
    2 clicks instead of one to get to the WSJ story but so what?
    The only way I'd ever use a MS search engine is if all other
    major search engines went belly up.

    I mean seriously, does anyone really have complaints about
    Google? Its a great tool, Microsoft needs to stop trying to
    shanghai over-served markets with bribery (paying off News
    Corp, paying off Rockstar to make expansions for Grand Theft
    Auto 4 xbox exclusive, paying customers to use bing ect).

    Things would be just fine in a Yahoo/Google,
    Playstation/Nintendo, iPhone/Android/Blackberry, Ipod (ok
    nothing really competes with the ipod well so just Ipod) world.
    Spend that money making Windows not fail 8 out of 10
    security tests instead.

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    ErikSherman

    11/30/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Microsoft News Corp. Deal Is a Google Killer

    >> The only way I'd ever use a MS search engine is if all other major search engines went belly up. <<

    You are making a critical error: assuming that all consumers will react the way you do. And, again, it's not that you can't get the info indirectly, but that this would hit Google at the heart of its market positioning.

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