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Cisco, Nortel, Avaya, Microsoft and... Shoretel?

By Michael Hickins | Mar 10, 2009

Cisco, Microsoft, Avaya and Nortel are familiar names, but John Combs would like to make sure people keep Shoretel in mind as well, even if he has to throw a few sharp elbows to get a seat at the table.

Combs is the chairman and CEO of Shortel, which makes IP-based unified communications (UC) systems for enterprise customers. Those systems are gaining in popularity because they allow companies to reduce communications costs by cutting out traditional phone lines, and can also improve productivity by allowing customers to consolidate and managing voice and data communications using a single software client.

Shoretel has more than eight thousand enterprise customers and generated $128 million in revenues in 2008.

The company announced today that the Verizon Center in Washington, D.C., home to the NBA’s Washington Wizards, has selected Shoretel’s UC system for its 108 luxury suites and office operations.

Combs noted over coffee that Shoretel gained a point of market share in the last quarter of 2008 despite flat sales growth — because the rest of the market lost ground. The company has been profitable for the past 14 consecutive quarters and Combs boasted that Shoretel is “the fastest growing company in the market among [UC] companies of over $100 million [in sales].”

The company is also on fairly sound financial footing, with almost no long-term debt and $100 million in cash. Andy Rachleff at Seeking Alpha wrote:

Gross margins remained steady at 63% and significantly, incremental operating margin was 85%, showing the potential leverage in the operating model as revenue scales. The company intends to invest this financial leverage in additional development & sales resources in fiscal 2009. This will suppress growth in operating income, but should translate to a higher revenue growth rate and ultimately, operating leverage in fiscal 2010.

Combs isn’t above playing hardball either, often offering to remain in the bidding even after a customer has told him they’re buying Cisco instead, causing Cisco to offer steeper discounts to get the win, thus costing it money.

He also claimed that Shoretel wins over 50% of the deals for which it bids. “My only real competition is not being included at the table,” he told me.

That said, Shoretel is dwarfed by its principal competitors. Cisco is a $40 billion company, Microsoft reported more than $60 billion in revenues for its most recent fiscal year, and Avaya generated $5.1 billion in 2007, the last year for which figures are available because it was taken private by Silver Lake Partners and TPG Capital for $8.2 billion in 2007.

But when all is said and done, Combs expects to be among the three unified communications (UC) vendors standing.

The other two are Cisco, of course, and Microsoft, which despite being a recent entrant in the telephony space, “has got a great shot to be a player in this business.”

When Microsoft first entered the UC space, it partnered with Nortel to gain credibility with customers. But according to Combs, “Microsoft is past the point where they need validation from a telecom vendor.”

That’s a good thing because Nortel is operating under bankruptcy protection, and is “weakened or dead,” according to Combs.

He says he suspects Avaya of having shaky financials as well, but that’s probably wishful thinking, because Avaya’s balance sheet was free of debt as of its last full-year filing.

In fact, I could almost suspect of Combs of just sowing the market with a bit of FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt). Almost.

Michael Hickins is a professional writer and journalist with a passion for ferreting out the intersections between technology and culture.

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    lissets

    03/16/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Cisco, Nortel, Avaya, Microsoft and... Shoretel?

    I was a Shoretel customer at my last company. I must say it was a solid product.

    Congrats and keep up the good work!

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    Michael Hickins

    03/23/09 | Report as spam

    Shoretel

    Thanks for the feedback. Were you an end-user or admin? Can you compare Shoretel to other VoIP systems?

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    ssampier@...

    06/05/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Cisco, Nortel, Avaya, Microsoft and... Shoretel?

    My local school district runs Shoretel. From talking with the techs they said it runs very well, compared with their aged Cisco VOIP system.

    When I was bidding out systems Shortel was 23% less than Cisco.

    Dying-and-gasping-for-breath Nortel was 46% less than Cisco.

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    Michael Hickins

    06/05/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Cisco, Nortel, Avaya, Microsoft and... Shoretel?

    Those are fantastic numbers! Thanks for sharing them. (Did you get a bid from Microsoft?)

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    dngcal

    07/03/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Cisco, Nortel, Avaya, Microsoft and... Shoretel?

    As the original designer for the CS 1000 (no longer with Nortel) I can say that the CS 1000/2000 is a solid product designed for larger enterprise. Shortel does focus on SOHO (small office home office) and those customers that might consider a Cisco Call Manager Express (240 agents/users) or less. H.323 has been more stable in the past as its a binary protocol while SIP is ANSI/ASCII. The CS 1000 and Cisco call managers focused on H.323 while supporting SIP and in CISCO's case SKINNY to the client/user.

    Today, SIP is very stable and there are many solutions from HP, Avaya and smaller vendors. Most VoIP products offer good QoS and its now a matter of support and ease of setup. Fortune 500 companies with say 30,000 or 60,000 seats/users look for support and integration to the legacy equipment. Shoretel does not have this thus they are still looked at by the large companies as a solution for smaller operations.

    All VoIP solutions cut out the traditional phone lines and use an existing RJ 45 connector. The customer must provide a gigbit ethernet infrastructure (ideally). Though Shoretel offers this, all do. Avaya is now marketing to SOHO, Nortel is hurting financially, Cosmocom is not selling what they did and the list goes on. If Shoretel was smart they would scale up to 1200 - 5000 seats and obtain engineers who know how to integrate to legacy systems. Any moron can rip out a 40 man phone system and install a replacement in a few days. SOHO is a good market but the mid size is where all the integration problems exist. With problems come profit.

    D.N. Glassman
    dngcal@gmail.com

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    rlordon@...

    07/21/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Cisco, Nortel, Avaya, Microsoft and... Shoretel?

    I was actually a Shoretel Vendor for some time but later moved away from them due to the fact that they only have about 250 employees and very poor training. As well as a few other reasons?

    The system is nothing when placed next to Avaya's Communication Manager Product. They are a great small business system with 10 or so sites but don?t have an enterprise product.
    For example one of their claims to fame was the ability for the system to fail over to another site in the event a switch went out. Well all that is great if you have enough ports on the other switch to handle the load. And the claim that it is a server-less system. You can make calls etc when the server is down but functionality is severely limited (at least that is the way it used to be) running my auto attendant on 2003 server is not my way of showing stability.
    Avaya communication Manager on Hard Linux is and will always be the way to go. Call Center?!?!?, it is outsourced and not even their own product. R&D I think they have maybe 7 to 10 employees for this?!?! Avaya Labs has thousands. And this CEO in this article poking at Avaya and their financial Stability?!?!? Excuse me Sir they just offered half a billion for Nortels Enterprise unit. You want to see who starts and invents all of the real telephony software and related applications? Do a google search for patents for Shoretel you might see a handful. Punch in Avaya, Nortel, or Cisco and you will see pages upon Pages of them.

    Shoretel is doing nothing more than using the internet to market themselves.. Installed 108 room system?!?!?! Hilarious I don?t see Avaya bragging about installing over 50,000 phones for Dell or 20,000 plus phones for Google, Yea that?s right tech savvy Google runs Avaya.. And what about Apple there is an Avaya phone system in every Apple store and they connect over 30,000 employees I could go on all day.

    Shoretel Business Partners are really the ones getting slammed, they sell the system and then have to sell Shoretel Maintenance through Shoretel in order to support the Customer. It?s a one time deal with next to nothing in the way of residual income, while Shoretel enjoys very high profit margins of 60% plus the business partners fight with each other for a pittance of what the company is making, and then once it is installed they get absolutely nothing.

    -Robert

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