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Sony Whistles In Console Dark, Outmaneuvered by Nintendo, Microsoft

By Erik Sherman | Jan 21, 2009

It always seems presumptuous to sound a death knell for an enormous company. So perhaps this is more a bell closing round seven of a fight, but on the gaming front, Sony is looking bad. Really bad. And because of the company’s overall financial position, it will take far more than posturing to keep the console division in the game at all.

Console or Tombstone?On the largely disappointing recent holiday retail front, and, indeed, in the face of the entire economy last year, the year’s results, Sony was hurting, according to NDP Group’s data. [UPDATE: Here's a link for a look at some actual global unit sales numbers for the PS3.] The top two sales spots were Nintendo’s Wii and DS. Microsoft’s Xbox 350 was a solid third place. But the Sony PlayStation 3 couldn’t even beat the million unit mark, although the PSP just squeaked by into that territory.

As Ben Kuchera at Ars Technica puts it, “You have to dig deeper into Sony’s performance to find the positive talking points.” Frankly, I’m not sure that even financial spelunking offers any real bright points. Looking at the company’s 2008 annual report, sales, converted to U.S. dollars, were about $14.7 billion. As the company points out, that was a 26.3 percent revenue increase over FY 2007, but still with a net loss of about $1.4 billion, or almost 10 percent.

It’s difficult to directly compare Microsoft, because the division that has gaming supports general consumer marketing costs, so the paper loss probably does not accurately reflect the actual situation. But we can look at Nintendo’s six months ending September 30, 2008: about $9.5 billion in revenue, or about a 20.4 percent increase over the same period in 2007, with about $1.6 billion in net income. And the same period in 2007 also showed a positive net income. Not only is Nintendo walking away with market share, but it clearly knows how to operate efficiently.

The question of how to make console designs pay off is a critical one, because it takes time to ramp up production and drive down costs so that units are profitable. I once spoke to someone at Microsoft who said that the general model has been to create units that sell at a loss in the first three years and then turn profitable over two additional years, with royalties off game titles turning the whole thing into a long-range profitable venture.

Nintendo has shattered that model with the Wii, bringing it out in the Americas in the fall of 2006 and running profitably by the next year. That is remarkable. The underlying business model of the industry is changing. What is Sony’s answer? Wishful thinking.

Sony claims that the PS3 is a ten year system. This has to be one of the most ridiculous arguments someone in the tech industry has ever offered. Consumer electronics product lifecycles generally run in the six month range. The gaming consoles are different because they have a much bigger nut to get to break even, so they can’t turn around that fast. But ten years? The company claims that the product is ahead of the market. Odd, because it doesn’t seem to do much of anything that can’t be done by the other consoles, except maybe Blu-ray compatibility, and as we’ve seen before, that’s not necessarily something people care about.

But Sony is serious because it’s probably going to take that long to actually make a profit on the device. According to an iSuppli report, the PS3 currently costs just over $448 to build, which doesn’t include software, packaging, and royalties. In other words, after having the system on the market for about as long as Nintendo’s Wii, the company is still losing money on every sale. And the current $399 or so price tag is what retail gets. Sony will get significantly less after the retailers take their cut. Given that the unit cost used to be over $690, Sony has an enormous collective loss to overcome.

But it can’t catch up to Nintendo and Microsoft because the console is just too flipping expensive compared to a Wii or Xbox 360. Such features as built-in Wi-Fi and Blu-ray and even free online gaming are nice, but consumers clearly don’t care. Regular people don’t view the capabilities as compelling enough.

Unfortunately for Sony, it probably doesn’t have the financial wherewithal to really compete on price by dropping prices to a competitive level. The company may report its first net loss in 14 years this spring. Shareholders will clamor for restructuring. Unfortunately, CEO Sir Howard Stringer is running into strong opposition to change from old guard management.

Sony’s is also in no financial shape to develop a new system. By the time it is, Nintendo and Microsoft will have moved ahead to something grander, leaving the PS3, and Sony itself, in the dust.

Erik Sherman is a freelance journalist whose work has appeared in Newsweek, the New York Times Magazine, Technology Review, the Financial Times, Chief Executive, and other publications. Follow him on Twitter.

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    WWII

    01/21/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Sony Whistles In Console Dark, Outmaneuvered by Nintendo, Microsoft

    -You call the ten-year life circle ridiculous but you seem to forget about the PS2...

    -Also, what about the 33% failure rate of the X360 and all the money MS had to waste to repair all the consoles for free?

    -MGS4 is a game that can't be done on any other console just because of the space the blu-ray offers. Killzone 2 is another example... Most beautiful game on any console ever so far. But yeah, the PS3 doesn't offer anything that the other console couldn't offer? Are you really a gamer for god sake?

    -The Wii have been a success but look at the last couple of console Nintendo made. They weren't what you call a success and I never saw articles as ridiculous as this one saying that Nintendo was dead.

    -Regular people don't even know that the PS3 can play blu-ray movies man... Let alone that the online is free or that it comes with built-in wifi or that it doesn't breaks as often as the most unreliable piece of hardware ever created. The X360.

    -Price means nothing because the X360 came a year earlier and it is right now cheaper than the Wii and look at it...

    -The blu-ray have been gaining more ground than the DVD when it started the transition from VHS... Or you already forgot that DVD players were expensive as heck! There were players in the range of $600. If you compare that to the blu-ray, right now they are cheaper than the DVD for the time.

    Seriously, do you get paid for this? I'm not expert of anything but I am completely sure that the PS3's going to beat at least the X360(Wii has to much media attention and even people that don't generally play games are buying Wii's) and sooner or later blu-ray is going to overtake DVD's. Just look at the "Dark Knight" sales!

    {{{{{[Mark my words]}}}}}

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    juu

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    RE: Sony Whistles In Console Dark, Outmaneuvered by Nintendo, Microsoft

    Sir, you are clearly misinformed. I suggest that you do some proper research and kindly take your article and shove it up your crusty ass.

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    Bandit King

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    RE: Sony Whistles In Console Dark, Outmaneuvered by Nintendo, Microsoft

    Honestly what (outside of web site traffic) were you hoping to accomplish with this? You prove you have absolutely no knowledge about this industry or very much of anything for that matter. Here are a couple of facts for you to chew on:

    1. Xbox has the # 2 spot in America but is no where near a far a head in Europe, and is a complete joke in Japan. So how is Sony out of the game if 2 out of 3 regions either overly support them or almost even with MS?

    2. I love how everyone plays the "Nintendo doesn't suck" card now just because of some sales numbers. News flash, hardware numbers don't equal game sales. Outside of some real trash (Wii play and Wii fit) the Wii fails to ever move games, which is why it has no third party support.

    3. Sony has been the dominant platform for the last 2 generations, even if they are in last this time the PS3 has already out performed the N64 and Gamecube, so if Nintendo can consistanly fail for 2 straight generations then Sony can weather this easily.

    4. This is not Dreamcast or virtualboy your talkin about, it's a system that is already approaching 20 million users after two years, the PS3 is far from a flop, not to mention the ammount of money Sony has riding on the PS3 it's too big of a project to just up and drop.

    Seriously you should take your head out of your rear, and either A) write intelligent articles or B) Keep your mouth shut

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    Statix

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    RE: Sony Whistles In Console Dark, Outmaneuvered by Nintendo, Microsoft

    It's just amazing, the sudden glut of pro-Microsoft, Sony-hating, biased and factually innacurate articles that are coming out of the woodwork lately. These poor, pathetic little sites trying to call attention to themselves, by taking potshots at Sony just because of some recent not-so-positive corporate news (which, btw, actually applies to every company, in light of the recent global economic downturn).

    These Sony-hating journalists with their BLATANTLY biased (it's not even a question that they're biased anymore--they are 100% bona fide BIASED, with absolute vitriol), one-sided logic just need to stop, because it's becoming pathetic to the point of parody and comedy.

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    ErikSherman

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    RE: Sony Whistles In Console Dark, Outmaneuvered by Nintendo, Microsoft

    I find it amusing that people get so vehement about a company - and that I've also been called "Sony loving" and "Microsoft hating" in the past.

    You have to pull your heads out of the games for long enough to look at what drives companies: finances. If Sony doesn't figure out how to stop losing money on PS3, it won't be able to continue selling. Period. That's neither biased nor inaccurate. You may not like that, and that's fine, but it doesn't change the business dynamics. No matter how many millions they've sold, they keep losing money on every single PS3, and investors will only put up with that for so long. And, by the way, I believe that NDP's numbers reflect worldwide console units, not in the US alone. Leading in one or two markets doesn't matter if a company can't get enough unit sales to lower prices fast enough to see a profit.

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    EvolutionX

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    RE: Sony Whistles In Console Dark, Outmaneuvered by Nintendo, Microsoft

    Mr. Sherman, the NPD group tallies sales in the
    United States not the world. Please do more
    research before writing more sensationalistic
    editorials.

    On another note, I would be interested to know
    if Microsoft is selling their $199.99 version
    of the XBOX360 at a loss, and if so, why aren't
    you lambasting them as well?

    Your article appears very biased.

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    ErikSherman

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    RE: Sony Whistles In Console Dark, Outmaneuvered by Nintendo, Microsoft

    EvolutionX, thanks for the civil tone. If you looked at articles I've written for BNET over time, you'd see that I have raised questions about what Microsoft is doing in the gaming space. However, when you look at their reported numbers, it turns out that the "loss" the gaming division shows actually includes the cost of all the consumer marketng for Windows. It's pretty much impossible to unravel how they're doing from publicly reported numbers, and the company has used the "three year loss, two year profit" model on consoles in the past to get to an overall profitable point in that market. In fact, at least some reports in 2006 suggested that the Xbox 360 was already turning a small profit per unit (http://www.techspot.com/news/23612-microsoft-makes-tiny-profit-on-xbox-360-hardware.html). If true, that would suggest an even larger profit by last fall -- more than enough to absorb the price cuts.

    But the PS3 is so expensive to make and sell that it moves into its own category. Sony can point to the longevity of the PS2 - which, interestingly enough, still outsells the PS3. But if a console was supposed to last for ten years, why did Sony even bother to introduce the PS3 before the PS2 was closer to end of life?

    It's because the ten year argument is not true. There's even a report out of Japan (http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/41119/98/) of Sony claiming that it is "well on its way to outselling and thriving better than the Xbox 360" and that the Wii isn't even competition.

    I was incorrect about the NDP numbers and, unfortunately, getting accurate global sales figures seems impossible. Microsoft has been claiming 28 million Xbox 360 sold worldwide with 8 million more units than the PS3. Is that accurate? My guess would be that the difference would be less. However, look again at how Sony is talking about the competitive position of the PS3: well on its way to outselling. That's effectively a tacit admission that the PS3 is not yet outselling the Xbox 360 even worldwide, let alone in the US. Yes, Microsoft had a head start. And maybe the U.S. market is completely out of step with the rest of the world. But I'm doing some additional digging and hope to have some more solid info on PS3 units by Thursday (which, given my eastern U.S. location, is already today).

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    RE: Sony Whistles In Console Dark, Outmaneuvered by Nintendo, Microsoft

    Erik, first you make inaccurate assumptions about the scope of NPD data then you proclaim that additional info of a more solid nature is
    required. Explain to me why these things aren't sorted before you publish your article? Your attaching a gravestone to your copy claiming RIP & in the same breath 'reliable global sales numbers are just impossible'.....then what's the point? It's ALL about global sales & nothing else. I wonder if you applied the same journalistic integrity to your claim 'blu-ray isn't necessarily something people care about'.
    Apparently a growing percentage of people do....at a faster rate of uptake then DVD at a similiar stage in it's product cycle. Couldn't find those numbers either?...or i suppose those are just unreliable as well, conveniently. The Wii is in a seperate market segment from 360/PS3 & it's also pointless to compare PS2 & handhelds to these two. The direct competitor to PS3 is 360...these are the only two HD capable racks meant to appeal
    to the serious gamer. All else is portable or SD capable only & the Wii is more of a fad, buts fads gain serious impulse-buy momentum.
    What gets tiresome to me are the continual parade of 'Sony f'd this or that up' articles when the only solid numbers you seem to be able to come up with are North American sales where a console that has been out over a year prior has a few million lead.....they are essentially tied in other words as far as market share....they are in the same order of magnitude of sales. And no i'm not a fan nor a boy, our household has 360 & PS3.

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    ErikSherman

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    RE: Sony Whistles In Console Dark, Outmaneuvered by Nintendo, Microsoft

    I'm in the middle of getting global numbers from Sony. But if you take previous reports that both Sony and Microsoft give of their products and also factor in Sony's revised forecast for its current fiscal year, then Sony's base is trailing significantly. Whether it's the 8 million Microsoft has claimed or maybe 6 million if Sony is accurate in its forecasting will depend on the updated information I hopefully get later today from the company.

    But I disagree in the argument that only the 360 counts. The problem is financial. Sony has to get a pretty high sales rate to make the units profitable, and there's going to be tremendous pressure on it by investors to cut red ink. You can say that only the 360 is a direct competitor, but instead of looking at gaming titles consider this: the competition is partly where else consumers might spend their money, and partly internal - whether Sony will be allowed by its investors to continue selling at a loss. Also, cumulative nubmers are fine, but you also have to look at unit growth rates. Sony's published global numbers and its global forecast for the current fiscal year would indicate a year-over-year unit growth of 7 percent. That may not be enough to bring the costs down fast enough to reach a point of economic viability.

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    gypsygib

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    RE: Sony Whistles In Console Dark, Outmaneuvered by Nintendo, Microsoft

    Wow, another sensationalist article from a "journalist" about how PS3 is dead. The same thing was said about MS being in trouble last year until its price cut remember? For the majority of last year as PS3 was outselling it everywhere. Why don't you stop selling out and report something realistic and objective as opposed to pathetically garnering attention with you PS3 doomsday prognoses. It's saddening to see that the majority of videogame journalism is more akin to tabloids. Yeah keep singing "RIP PS3" until you change your tune to "Sony's Big Comback" when Sony eventually drops the price, to bad by then most of you videogame news outlets will have lost all credibility.

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    fatguy309

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    RE: Sony Whistles In Console Dark, Outmaneuvered by Nintendo, Microsoft

    ...subtract the 360 sales that occurred during the time it was on the market before PS3 & see how much the 'significant' margin is. Was the PS2 sold at a profit initially?.....how long was it sold at a loss? How reliable is the manufacturing cost estimate you are quoting.....is this unit manuf cost endorsed by Sony. Is there a published unit cost for PS3 based on current rates, not 4 month old part costs? Food for thought?

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    ErikSherman

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    RE: Sony Whistles In Console Dark, Outmaneuvered by Nintendo, Microsoft

    First, I'll shortly be posting something with actual Sony-released global numbers for the PS3. I had to do an estimate for one quarter, but check to see if it seems reasonable. This will be as close as I can get until Sony will provide the actual numbers for Oct. through Dec. 2008. Those who seem so angry at Microsoft will be happy, I'm sure, because I was able to put the Xbox 360's unit sales into some kind of perspective after additional research and some triangulation. I still say that Sony has problems because the units cost them too much.

    Now for the previous comment:

    >> Was the PS2 sold at a profit initially?.....how long was it sold at a loss? How reliable is the manufacturing cost estimate you are quoting.....is this unit manuf cost endorsed by Sony. Is there a published unit cost for PS3 based on current rates, not 4 month old part costs? Food for thought?<<

    I believe it's been sold at a loss since it first started selling. iSuppli's main business is following component availability and pricing (they do electronic component supply chain analysis and purchase consulting), and I think the estimate will be relatively accurate, and probably priced at large volume. The original component pricing was much higher than the original list prices.

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    fatguy309

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    RE: Sony Whistles In Console Dark, Outmaneuvered by Nintendo, Microsoft

    ....PS2? the PS2 sold at a loss initially but not now i would think...? i meant as a comparable
    hardware cost burden initially until installed base grows...as a comparable model for PS3 hardware costing.

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    ErikSherman

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    RE: Sony Whistles In Console Dark, Outmaneuvered by Nintendo, Microsoft

    Oh, sorry, I was rushing and misread - yes, the PS2 is selling at a profit now. But the PS3 was so much more expensive than the PS2 that I don't think you can do a straight comparison.

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    Daiboun

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    RE: Sony Whistles In Console Dark, Outmaneuvered by Nintendo, Microsoft

    Is the giant re-thinking his operating expenses and working capital and even maybe diversifying his product packaging? instead of restructuring, it sounds quite alarming to have a same commodity with such big differences in costs, they should think basic platforms with function upgrades to be sold at even better profits.

    what is they inveory turnover?
    Waht is the lenght of their supply chain.
    are they consolidating RND to low cost areas?

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    labk

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    RE: Sony Whistles In Console Dark, Outmaneuvered by Nintendo, Microsoft

    This is the most misinformed & inaccurate article I have read in a long time, if your desire was to pass as a complete ignorant I applaud you as you have clearly succeeded.

    1: concerning the finances of gaming companies I find amusing how you completely ignore the fact that Microsoft???s gaming division has been loss making since the release of the first Xbox console, and since the release of the PS1 Nintendo has failed miserably to produce a console bringing any real revenue to the table.

    2: you article mentions the success of consoles but barely discusses the DS which by the way has a stronger following and bigger sales than the Wii - bravo...

    2: The average life cycle of a successful console is 8 years or over this includes the NES, Super Nintendo & Sega Mega Drive not to mention the PS2 which is in its 9th year of sale and the PS1 that sold for over 12 years........

    3: Three of the biggest Tech companies in the world - Sony, Apple, and Microsoft - have all released statements and are thriving to take "dominance of the living room" by incorporating as many tools in one single unit - as such having a Blu-Ray player, Wifi accessibility, and PC features are very important to be future proof and share a position in this market.

    I strongly suggest you retract this article and go do some homework as you really are sounding like a fool with very little knowledge of our cherished industry.

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    ErikSherman

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    RE: Sony Whistles In Console Dark, Outmaneuvered by Nintendo, Microsoft

    >> This is the most misinformed & inaccurate article I have read in a long time, if your desire was to pass as a complete ignorant I applaud you as you have clearly succeeded. <<

    Ah, I detect another whistler in the dark. Let's get to your remarks and see whether you're as informed as you like.

    >> 1: concerning the finances of gaming companies I find amusing how you completely ignore the fact that Microsoft???s gaming division has been loss making since the release of the first Xbox console, and since the release of the PS1 Nintendo has failed miserably to produce a console bringing any real revenue to the table.<<

    Have you even bothered to look at the public numbers for Microsoft? You couldn't have if you claim that the divison has been losing money continuously since the introduction of the Xbox, as it clearly shows a profit. If you read the financials closer, you'd also note taht Microsoft ascribes all sorts of additional expenses - like all the retail marketing for windows - in the division's costs and clearly states that it's impossible from the reported numbers to untangle such things.

    So far as Nintendo's wares, you may not like them, but quite a few people apparently have found value. Unless you think everyone should live by your subjective judgment. I'm sure all of Nintendo is crying all the way to the bank at your dismissal.

    >> 2: you article mentions the success of consoles but barely discusses the DS which by the way has a stronger following and bigger sales than the Wii - bravo... <<

    Uh, right. Because I was writing pretty specifically about the PS3, Wii, and Xbox 360. The DS is fine, but it's a different category of machine. That's like saying if you're talking about servers, you should throw in a discussion of PDAs. You do see the difference, right? And if you're going down that road, why not demand to know why I don't mention the PS2, which handily outsells the PS3? Or is that one of your subjective judgments?

    >> 2: The average life cycle of a successful console is 8 years or over this includes the NES, Super Nintendo & Sega Mega Drive not to mention the PS2 which is in its 9th year of sale and the PS1 that sold for over 12 years........ <<

    OK, I guess this is your second point number 2. Yes, a number of gaming consoles lasted longer. But the pattern is changing. The first Xbox lasted about five years. Microsoft has said that it's not planning on a new version of the 360 right now, but it wouldn't surprise me if they did were already working on something and planning to release it in 2011 or 2012. The GameCube was around for ... wait for it ... five years before the Wii. The PS2? Around for six years before the PS3.

    In case you haven't noticed yet, the companies feel the need to keep coming out with something new. The old models can't keep up on processing power or graphics necessary for the most demanding games. And Sony is the only one that depends so heavily on the longevity of the devices - because they're paying too much per unit.

    >> 3: Three of the biggest Tech companies in the world - Sony, Apple, and Microsoft - have all released statements and are thriving to take "dominance of the living room" by incorporating as many tools in one single unit - as such having a Blu-Ray player, Wifi accessibility, and PC features are very important to be future proof and share a position in this market. <<

    Oh, please, I've been listening to the home conversion mantra for something like six or seven or eight years - at least. They're all afraid that it might happen, but none are sure that it will. And consumers have largely shown by their purchasing behavior that they aren't clamoring for the CE version of the Swiss army knife.

    Now companies like Cisco are also in play, and what is important here are the connections between things, not just the end units. And have you bothered to see what the companies are doing? Apple's big focus is on the mobile market, not sitting around and waiting for the grand convergence.

    And Blu-ray is necessary? Go check what the sales numbers are, as people download high def and Blu-ray loses market share to plain old DVDs. I'd agree with Wi-Fi, and personally didn't like that the Xbox 360 that I had bought one of my kids as a present didn't come with the capability natively.

    >> I strongly suggest you retract this article and go do some homework as you really are sounding like a fool with very little knowledge of our cherished industry.<<

    I don't mind people disagreeing with me, and I'll correct aspects of a story if necessary. I'll be patient and polite ... up to a point. But if you want to discuss something, be reasonable and bring forth rational points, not substitute frothing at the mouth. (There have been a number of people who have been civil in comments and in emails, and I've appreciated all of it.)

    BNET is about the business of industries. I understand that some people are fans, but ratchet down the righteous anger if you want to have a discussion. We're talking about businesses as businesses, not as religious icons.

    As I mentioned, my polite demeanor has its limits, and you really don't want to attempt contemptuous derision before you make sure that your fly is up. And that you remember how to number up to 4.

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